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14 years of drought - Part 2, and 3


PART 2(a) -
B-I-E and BCBull asked for it. So, here it is.

Here is the listing of the other schools currently in the previously mentioned conferences, and their MBB head coaching turnover during the past 14 years. In other words, this is a listing of teams that have not won their current onference tournament title during the past 14 years.

ACC:
Boston College - 2 coaches - Al Skinner (10), Steve Donahue (4)
Clemson - 3 coaches - Larry Shyatt (3), Oliver Purnell (7), Brad Brownell (4)
Georgia Tech - 2 coaches - Paul Hewitt (11), Brian Gregory (3)
North Carolina State - 3 coaches - Herb Sendek (6), Sidney Lowe (5), Mark Gottfried (3)
Notre Dame - 1 coach - Mike Brey (14)
Pittsburgh - 2 coaches - Ben howland (3), Jamie Dixon (11)
Syracuse - 1 coach - Jim Boeheim (14)
Virgina Tech - 3 coaches - Ricky Stokes (3), Seth Greenberg (9), James Johnson (2)
Wake Forest - 3 coaches - Skip Prosser (7), Dino Gaudio (3), Jeff Bzdelik (4)

America East:
Hartford - 3 coaches - Larry Harrison (6), Dan Leibovitz (4), John Gallagher (4)
Maine - 2 coaches - Dr. John Giannini (4), Ted Woodward (10)
Massachusetts Lowell - 4 coaches - Gary Manchel (1), Ken Barer (7), Greg Herenda (5), Pat Duquette (1)
New Hampshire - 2 coaches - Phil Rowe (5), Bill Herron (9)
Stony Brook - 2 coaches - Nick Macarchuk (5), Steve Pikiell (9)

Horizon:
Green Bay - 3 coaches - Mike Heideman (2), Tod Kowaczyk (8), Brian Wardle (4)
Oakland - 1 coach - Greg Kampe (14)
Youngstown State - 2 coaches - John Robic (5), Jerry Slocum (9)

MAAC:
Canisius - 3 coaches - Mike MacDonald (6), Tom Parrotta (6), Jim Baron (2)
Fairfield - 3 coaches - Tim O'Toole (6), Ed Cooley (5), Sydney Johnson (3)
Marist - 4 coaches - Dave Magarity (4), Matt Brady (4), Chuck Martin (5), Jeff Bower (1)
Monmouth - 2 coaches - Dave Calloway (11), King Rice (3)
Quinnipiac - 2 coaches - Joe DeSantis (7),Tom Moore (7)
Rider - 3 coaches - Don Harnum (5), Tommy Dempsey (7), Kevin Baggett (2)

MAC:
Ball State - 4 coaches - Tim Buckley (6), Ronny Thompson (1), Billy Taylor (6), James Whitford (1)
Bowling Green - 2 coaches - Dan Dakich (7), Loius Orr (7)
Buffalo - 2 coaches - Reggie Witherspoon (13), Bobby hurley (1)
Eastern Michigan - 3 coaches - Jim Boone (5), Chareles Ramsey (6), Rob Murphy (3)
Northern Illinois - 4 coaches - Andy Greer (1), Rob Judson (6), Ricardo Patton (4), Mark Montgomery (3)
Toledo - 3 coaches - Stan Joplin (8), Gene Cross (2),Tod Kowalczyk (4)

Missouri Valley:
Bradely - 3 coaches - Jim Molinari (2), Jim Les (9), Geno Ford (3)
Evansville - 3 coaches - Jim Crews (2),Steve Merfeld (5), Marty Simmons (7)
Illinois State - 4 coaches - Tom Richardson (2), Porter Moser (5), Tim Jankovich (4), Dan Muller (3)
Loyola (IL) - 3 coaches - Larry Farmer (4), Jim Whitesell (7), Porter Moser (3)
Missouri State - 3 coaches - Barry Hinson (8), Cuonzo Martin (3), Paul Lusk (3)

Pac-12:
Arizona State - 2 coaches - Rob Evans (6), Herb Sendek (8)
Colorado - 3 coaches - Ricardo Patton (7), Jeff Bzdelik (3), Tad Boyle (4)
Oregon State - 3 coaches - Ritchie McKay (2), Jay John (5), Craig Robinson (7)
Utah - 4 coaches - Rick Majerus (4), Ray Giacoletti (3), Jim Boylen (40, Larry Krystkowiak (3)
Washington State - 4 coaches - Paul Graham (3), Dick Bennett (3), Tony Bennett (3), Ken Boone (5)

39 Teams and 102 Coaches

This means that on average each team has had 2.62 head coaches, each serving 5.34 years, over the past 14 years. (Note that this does not account for conference re-alignmant, or coaches who were with their team for additional years prior to 2001)



PART 2(b) -
I've anticipated that the next follow-on question would be, "Well, how does this compare with the teams that did win?". So, here we go, back to the original list of schools.

ACC:
Duke - 1 coach - Mike Krzyzewski (14)
Florida State - 2 coaches - Steve Robinson (2), Leonard Hamilton (12)
Maryland - 2 coaches - Gary Williams (11), Mark Turgeon (3)
Miami - 3 coaches - Perry Clark (4), Frank Haith (7), Jim Larranaga (3)
North Carolina - 2 coaches - Matt Doherty (3), Roy Williams (11)
Virginia - 3 coaches - Pete Gillen (5), Dave Leitao (4), Tony Bennett (5)

America East:
Albany - 2 coaches - Scott Beeten (1), Will Brown (13)
Binghamton - 4 coaches - Al Walker (6), Kevin Broadus (2), Mark Macon (3), Tommy Dempsey (2)
Boston University - 3 coaches - Dennis Wolff (9), Patrick Chambers (2), Joe Jones (3)
Hofstra - 4 coaches - Jay Wright (1), Tom Pecora (9), Mo Cassara (3), Joe Mihalich (1)
UMBC - 3 coaches - Tom Sullivan (4), Randy Monroe (8), Aki Thomas (2)
Vermont - 3 coaches - Tom Brennan (5), Mike Lonergan (6), John Becker (3)

Horizon:
Butler - 4 coaches - Thad Matta (1), Todd Lickliter (6), Brad Stevens (6), Brandon Miller (1)
Clevland - 3 coaches - Rollie Massimino (3), Mike Garland (3), Gary Waters (8)
Detroit - 2 coaches - Perry Watson (8), Ray McCallum (6)
Milwaukee - 3 coaches - Bo Ryan (1), Bruce Pearl (4), Rob Jeter (9)
UIC - 2 coaches - Jimmy Collins (10), Howard Moore (4)
Valparaiso - 3 coaches - Homer Drew, (10), Scott Drew (1), Bryce Drew (3)
Wright State - 4 coaches - Ed Schilling (3), Paul Biancardi (3), Brad Brownell (4), Billy Donlon (4)

MAAC:
Iona - 3 coaches - Jeff Ruland (7), Kevin Willard (3), Tim Cluess (4)
Loyola - 3 coaches - Scott Hicks (4), Jimmy Patsos (9), GG Smith (1)
Manhattan - 3 coaches - Bobby Gonzalez (6), Barry Rohrssen (5), Steve Masiello (3)
Niagria - 2 coaches - Joe Mihalich (13), Chris Casey (1)
Siena - 5 coaches - Louis Orr (1), Rob Lanier (4), Fran McCaffery (5), Mitch Buonaquro (3), Jimmy Patsos (1)
St. Peters - 2 coaches - Bob Leckie (6), John Dunne (8)

MAC:
Akron - 2 coaches - Dan Hipsher (4), Keith Dambrot (10)
Central Michigan - 3 coaches - Jay Smith (6), Ernie Zeigler (6), Keno Davis (2)
Kent State - 5 coaches - Gary Waters (1), Stan Heath (1), Jim Christian (6), Geno Ford (3), Rob Senderoff (3)
Miami (Oh) - 2 coaches - Charlie Coles (12), John Cooper (2)
Ohio - 4 coaches - Larry Hunter (1), Tim O'Shea (7), John Groce (4), Jim Christian (2)
Western Michigan - 2 coaches - Robert McCullum (3), Steve Hawkins (11)

Missouri Valley:
Creighton - 2 coaches - Dana Altman (10), Greg McDermott (4)
Drake - 5 coaches - Kurt Kanaskie (3), Tom Davis (4), Keno Davis (1), Edward Phelps (5), Ray Giacoletti (1)
Indiana State - 3 coaches - Royce Waltman (7), Kevin McKenna (3), Greg Lansing (4)
Northern Iowa - 3 coaches - Sam Weaver (1), Greg McDermott (5), Ben Jacobson (8)
Southern Illinois - 4 coaches - Bruce Weber (3), Matt Painter (1), Chris Lowery (8), Barry Hinson (2)
Wichita State - 2 coaches - Mark Turgeon (7), Gregg Marshall (7)

PAC 12:
Arizona - 4 coaches - Lute Olson (7), Kevin O'Neill (1), Russ Pennell (1), Sean Miller (5)
California - 2 coaches - Ben Braun (8), Mike Montgomery (6)
Oregon - 2 coaches - Ernie Kent (10), Dana Altman (4)
Stanford - 3 coaches - Mike Montgomery (4), Trent Johnson (4), Johnny Dawkins (6)
UCLA - 3 coaches - Steve Lavin (3), Ben Howland (10), Steve Alford (1)
USC - 4 coaches - Henry Bibby (5), Tim Floyd (4), Kevin O'Neill (4), Andy Enfield (1)
Washington - 2 coaches - Bob Bender (2), Lorenzo Romar (12)

43 'Winning' Teams and 128 Coaches - 128

This means that on average each team has had 2.98 head coaches, each serving 4.70 years, over the past 14 years.

There seems to be a slightly higher coaching turnover among the teams that have won their conference tournament. Perhaps the timeline is just too short to make any real conclusions though.

Interesting to note that of the list of winning teams, 13 (30%) have had the same coach for ten or more years during this span. And, of the teams who have not yet won, the number of teams that have had the same coach for at least ten years only drops to 9 (23%).



PART 3 -
Ugh, all this data and my original idea still hasn't been clearly stated.

It was simply that there is a difference between wants and demands. What you would like versus what you must have. It's fine for fans to have high expectations. It's great to have ADs give press conferences stating the teams will compete for conference tournament championships. Probably the more important thing would be to look at the contract structure with the HCs.

Only two teams get to compete in that final game. So, by following the PR statement, if the expectation is that the team will reach the tournament finals, then that should be related to the base salary. The first bonus (for going above and beyond) would only be handed out if the team won (and moved on to new territory). This doesn't necessarily imply that not reaching the finals automatically results in being fired, but it would be a clear indication of being on the hot seat, and needing to improve in order to stick around.

Where to place a team's expectations can be a bit of a gray area for any collective fan base. But, by comparing base salary with the point when bonuses kick in, I think the demands any given AD has for a HC can clearly be seen.

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